Your profile bio states that “you have to be brave and willing enough to crawl on all fours”. What do you mean by this – do you mean literally crawling on hands and knees, or being humble and accepting criticism and working hard to be a better photographer and artist?

What I mean is that it doesn’t have to be literally – but in my case it was... In Dutch it is, for instance, you are a better leader when you also know how to follow. Just like you are a better dominant if you know what it means to be submissive. That’s what I mean by brave and willing enough to crawl. It means to start at the bottom before working your way up to the top, to become experienced in a practical way in every aspect of your work, to better yourself so your work is unique to you and stands out from that of others.

So in what ways have you literally crawled on all fours, and why? We’re fascinated!

In my portrayals of SM play! I don’t have a problem with it – I went through the process of

liberating those feelings. When you know that part of life, you are better able to stand up tall and strong and be yourself.

Are you active in the BDSM scene? If so, what's your orient-
ation, what role do you play?

Yes I am active, but not parties, clubs or other events – only priv-
ate activities. I’m a switch but more on the submissive side; being a submissive is more “taboo”, but there is no shame in this. But I’m developing maybe more on the other side of switch-
ing, as well. For me, BDSM is only sexual – besides sexuality I'm not submissive at all, rather the op-
posite. What I mean is the dyn-
amics of power are always exist-
ing in every relationship – and more likely to be complementary than equal. The relations of un-
equal power are a reality between people and in society – those who deny it, deny reality.

Your attitude to your photog-
raphy appears to be the mod-
ernist one of “art as a mirror”. Do you have any comment on this? Do you see the artist as